Greg, Here are a couple of things you could try. First, there is a grub rescue floppy disk which should help you fix your grub problems. You might need sighted assistance to run it. I forget the name , but you can google it. Second, in the old days, we were able to copy the vmlinuz image to a floppy with dd and boot from it. Third, when grub doesn't boot successfully, you can get into a shell prompt. This allows you to use many of the normal shell commands to help determine what went wrong. In particular, you can mount devices and move/copy files. Again, you won't have speech. Finally, save yourself from further headaches and trash the machine. Chris