I may be wrong, but I think that the vim editing style of bash isn't really the vim editor, but just a vim-like mode provided by readline. For instance, pressing the colon (:) while in bash vim-style command-mode, doesn't allow you to enter a vim command, but just beeps at you. So I think it's probably just a boolean value in the readline library itself which indicates to the shell whether you are in insert or command mode. Take care, Rynhardt * Janina Sajka <janina at rednote.net> [101118 22:31]: > I think my main point got lost in the litany of vim complaints that have > actually been with us for a long time. I was trying to say something new > that no one has commented on. So, let me try to redirect, if I may ... > > William Hubbs writes: > > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 09:23:29AM +1000, pj at pjb.com.au wrote: > > > Janina Sajka wrote: > > > > My biggest complaint is that I need to be ultra-careful to > > > > track whether I'm in insert or command mode, i.e. it would > > > > sure help if Speakup could give me a differently pitched voice > > > > > > Good point :-) It might need some help from the vim folk... > > > > Yes, something like this would take modifications to vim to make it > > communicate to speakup some how, and I'm not sure what that would > > involve since I haven't looked at the vim code at all. > > > Actually, I don't think we need anything from vim. > > > Note that you can have either vim or emacs editing of bash commands. > Emacs is the default, but you can reset this by issuing: > > set -o vim > > By, default, this provides bash shell command editing in insert mode. As > in vim, pressing Esc takes you into command mode where all the vim > command mode functionality is provided. > > So, the shell knows. That's got to be a value that's written somewhere, > and thus something Speakup could read and respond to. I don't know > where, but am I wrong? > > Janina > > > William > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > -- > > Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200 > sip:janina at asterisk.rednote.net > > Chair, Open Accessibility janina at a11y.org > Linux Foundation http://a11y.org > > Chair, Protocols & Formats > Web Accessibility Initiative http://www.w3.org/wai/pf > World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup