Steve, that would sure drive me crazy. In fact I doubt I'd be willing to live with it. All I can tell you is that it ain't happenin to me. I was having an issue in vim where Speakup would read the char I left plus the new char I had just written, but this wnet away entirely when I switched back to iso 8859-1. Janina Steve Holmes writes: > I realize the more this gets talked about, the more diluted it > probably becomes. When I insert text with Vim or when I insert text in a command > line in Bash, speakup speaks everything following in that line. I'm > sure this is because screen contents are being changed ans speakup > reflects this. However, The old vi editor (probably elvis or > something) doesn't seem to exhibit this behavior but vim does. I > usually have cursoring on when I do this. I don't remember if this > changes when it is turned off. > > Another thing that would help speakup behave better with curses type > applications would be to add support for user defined windows where > parts of the screen could be spoken or blocked. This would be like > what is available in Vocal-Eyes and Window-Eyes for that matter. This > is obviously a big project and I think it would be fun to add but not > sure how well that would work in a kernel based program. > > On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 07:48:38PM -0500, Albert Sten-Clanton wrote: > > In addition to the suggestion below, I'd very much like to hear the > > characters I'm backspacing over. I asked about this a few years ago, but I > > gathered that this wasn't easy to do. Any thoughts? > > > > Al > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca] > > On Behalf Of William Hubbs > > Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 6:31 PM > > To: speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > Subject: Re: If bash can, why not Speakup? > > > > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 09:23:29AM +1000, pj at pjb.com.au wrote: > > > Janina Sajka wrote: > > > > I've been happily using vim for years. > > > > > > How do you cope with the endlessly-updating bottom line?, like: > > > "497L, 15593C 450,2 93%" > > > > > > I find speakup is in general difficult with curses applications > > > because of their screen-update optimisation. The characters don't > > > necessarily come out in a text-related order. > > > > You can disable that line by putting the following line in your > > ~/.vimrc: > > > > set noruler > > > > > > My biggest complaint is that I need to be ultra-careful to track > > > > whether I'm in insert or command mode, i.e. it would sure help if > > > > Speakup could give me a differently pitched voice > > > > > > Good point :-) It might need some help from the vim folk... > > > > Yes, something like this would take modifications to vim to make it > > communicate to speakup some how, and I'm not sure what that would involve > > since I haven't looked at the vim code at all. > > > > William > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200 sip:janina at asterisk.rednote.net Chair, Open Accessibility janina at a11y.org Linux Foundation http://a11y.org Chair, Protocols & Formats Web Accessibility Initiative http://www.w3.org/wai/pf World Wide Web Consortium (W3C)