Greg, John, and all On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 12:56:02PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote: > > yes, like I said before, I have my script run every 24 hours on the > messages my mom left as misidentified spam, or ham, so sa-learn is > being trained that way. Also, yes, the messages are being segregated > based on the x-spam-status header using maildrop actually, since I > personally prefer that to procmail. Thanks again. > > Greg Congratulations on taming your spamassassin configuration. I just finished installing a different spam protection here, much easier, and with a different strategy. It uses vipul's "razor" and integrates nicely with procmailrc and mutt. Razor is a collaborative spam protection scheme, and works a lot like "denyhosts" in that false positives and false negatives are reported to a distributed set of hosts one by one as they are encountered, and each email the user checks for spam is tested against the collective data base. It is the consensus of razor users that distinguishes between ham and spam, and that consensus is constantly being updated as the FP's and FN's are reported. Also, each user acquires a "trust level" as his reports are made, based on the soundness of his judgment in making the report. Advantages: It's a smart filter out of the box, already trained by other users. Disadvantages: It doesn't work too well if an individual user has ideosyncratic criteria for distinguishing ham/spam, since it stresses group consensus on that question. I divert incoming mail that is flagged by razor to a spam folder, and occasionally scan it for false positives, reporting them when I find them, by a keypress in mutt. As I examine mail that has not been flagged and diverted to my spam folder, I occasionally find a false negative, and simply report that to the network by another mutt keypress. I wonder what your thoughts are about such a collaborative data base for spam protection? It seems to me that it has some strengths that "going it alone" with the bayesian model for isolated individuals may lack. Chuck -- The Moon is Waxing Crescent (35% of Full) Either of these web addresses will take you to my web site: www.mhcable.com/~chuckh, or www.hallenbeck.ftml.net Audio editor weblog: edway.wordpress.com Or jabber 1on1 with me, chuckh1 at jabber.org -------- People in general do not willingly read if they have anything else to amuse them. -- S. Johnson