Gregory Nowak wrote: > apologies for the off topic post, but in my defense, it does concern > accessibility Hi Greg, You bet it does! > 1. Can others confirm that it isn't possible to download programs > from their site? Yes. Apparently, they use way too much javascript. I didn't bother to look at their page source, so I don't know whether there is an easy workaround. For what it's worth, I use edbrowse. If you are interested in streams, rather than downloads, there is a very easy way to listen to them. Have a look at a tool called shoutcast-search. It's homepage is here: http://www.k2h.se/code/shoutcast-search.html If it isn't packaged for your distro, you should have little difficulty installing it from source. Here is one of the listings that I see when I execute the command "shoutcast-search -v WRN": WRN English North America - wrn.org - [SHOUTcast.com] [64kbps audio/mpeg] http://yp.shoutcast.com/sbin/tunein-station.pls?id=964853 my own, 0 listeners Now playing: The "yp.shoutcast.org" link points to a playlist. You can use it with mplayer like so: mplayer -playlist http://yp.shoutcast.com/sbin/tunein-station.pls?id=964853 Hope this helps, -- Chris PS. Didn't these guys used to provide downloadable programs on an FTP site? Maybe I imagined it. They don't do so now, as far as I can tell.