Right. We've discussed this on irc and Chris Brannon and William have pushed a couple patches to espeakup to bring the wakeups way down. I encourrage folks to upgrade from git if you're experiencing load problems from speakup/espeakup. Kirk -- Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility e-mail: kirk at braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario phone: (519) 661-3061