Well Zack-and-All, I am following this discussion with interest. I suppose which ever option would give me more control of my Dec-Talk listening experience. Seems like when I was in DOS with Vocal-Eyes, I had complete controll, I could not only create character-and-key-label dictionaries, as well as manually edit Dec-Talk files to get rid of needless abreviations. Also in almost every windows screen-reader, as well as Jupiter in Linux, there are pronunciation dictionaries Now I feel I have quite little access to customizing my experience, even though Linux is more powerful. An example, yesterday some1 posted the path where the characters file could fix the letter zee. So I go there-and-with sudo in nano I edit that file, make all my changes. Once I exit, the file is automaticly set back to defaults. Maybe I should do a chmod 755 on that directory. Anyway, for months since we upgraded from fc6-fc9 most of the time my altered characters file is not active. And I still have issues, probably involving caps start-and-stop, which knock down pitch-and-rate. Thanks for listening Hart