I stand corrected, then. Question, though, regarding GRML. Do you have the option of installing any variation of Linux, or is it limitted to Debian or grml? I have a particular interest in a slightly less mainstream version of Linux, specificly Gentoo, which is my primary reason for asking. Though admittedly, a secondary reason to it is curiosity. -----Original Message----- From: speakup-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Michael Whapples Sent: January 28, 2009 12:26 PM To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Subject: RE: speakup is nice You are wrong in believing that speakup requires a software synth to install linux, have a look at the GRML distro (www.grml.org). GRML (I am always referring to the full version of GRML when I say GRML, not GRML medium or small which I will always specify if I am referring to these cut down versions) I find is wonderful for those of us who want to use speakup on a LiveCD without any hardware synth. To use GRML with software speech just enter: grml swspeak at the boot prompt and then when you get the voice message saying booting finished (I find it can say this a couple of seconds before booting really has finished, so you may wish to just wait a few seconds) you just need to enter the command: swspeak and you will have speakup with software speech output (providing your sound card is detected correctly but this is a problem for any software synth output, even orca can't solve that). If you want to install to hard disk then you can use grml2hd or grml-debootstrap (grml-debootstrap is to install debian instead of GRML). The computer I am using here has speakup with software speech output, it also has gnome and orca installed and I did all this installation with software speech (speakup for the install process). Also it is a laptop and I can take it anywhere (with no other hardware) and use speakup or orca without problems. I will admit distros including speakup with software speech output during install are rare and this is why I like GRML so much, the ability to have linux on CD which I can insert into any computer and use speakup with a software synth. I will just explain one comment I made earlier. I said about use GRML full version, this is because GRML medium and small do not include any accessibility features (IE. no speakup or brltty). Only the full version have the accessibility software. Hope this helps Michael Whapples On Wed, 2009-01-28 at 10:15 -0500, James Homuth wrote: > Not my impression at all. I am aware it can. However, not to install > the software. And not to install Linux speakup-enabled. That requires > a hardware synth for at least that process. Again, this is so far as > I'm aware. Which is as said, the drawback to my already not having > installed it at least until I can install a desktop interface. > _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup at braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup