The idea of using dmesg is an excellent one. But you will need to run it with sudo unless you have a root password set up and can run it as su. Also, check to see if you have a /de/tty.usbserial. It is true that some devices are supported in the kernel; the two usb- seial cables i've used have to have drivers but you might have hit on one that doesn't require a driver. What's tricky here is that the brand name of the cable doesn't necesssarily match with the name of the actual cable sometimes. for instance, my prolific cable actually is the cable sold by several different vendors. My keyspan, on the other hand, is definitely keyspan. -- Cheryl "Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O LORD, my strength, and my redeemer." (Psalm 19:14 Bible KJV)