Hi, You might be right, I'm not sure. I was using the 7.10 or 8.04 live CD, so hopefully the problem is fixed in newer versions. However, the sighted help said that Orca wasn't running and I certainly had no speech. When I launched it manually, I saw no indication of two copies running. I think it was a bug in the CD though because it worked fine on a different machine with more memory and the instructions for booting with speech were wrong. As I say, I'm sure the problem is fixed in 9.04 but I went with grml instead which I later converted into Debian unstable. I would still like to try Ubuntu again, perhaps in a virtual machine. Gregory Nowak wrote: > FYI, I've found that when running with 256M of ram, and having orca > set to > launch after login, it does in fact launch, even though it seems not > to have launched. My solution is to login, wait a few minutes, do an > insert+q, tab over to the quit button, or whatever it is called, hit > enter, wait maybe half a minute, and restart orca. You should find > that the machine is more responsive with only one instance of orca > running, instead of 2. Note that even though the orca docs say that > orca will kill any previously running copies of itself when another > copy is launched, this isn't the case for me when running under 256M of > ram, thus the need to use insert+q to get out of orca, instead of just > starting it up right there. This is my experience on 256M of ram, and > your results may of course vary. >