Could not you have an option to accept that change of numbering, and let the user decide whether he wants that sort of thing? I thought there were other issues involved. Since I always built the kernels the same I got used to the numbering and let it go -- or what I was thinging of was to have theearly boot work as before and do a switcheru once the serial driver came up so the speakup port would get its number again. Does that make any sense? on Monday 04/13/2009 William Hubbs(w.d.hubbs at gmail.com) wrote > On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:22:56AM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 08:47:51AM -0400, Kirk Reiser wrote: > > > Even with a hardware synth we have nowhere near a power-up to shutdown > > > solution like we used to have. > > > > I must say I was surprised when I read that. I've been using speakup > > since the 0.09 days, and haven't noticed any less bootup, or shutdown > > messages than before. I will admit though that I don't follow bootup > > and shutdown messages from start to finish, unless I have a specific > > reason to do so. As far as I know, having speakup and my synth driver > > built into the kernel, still gives me speech from what sounds like > > early on in the boot process, until the machine powers off, just like > > it always used to, or so it has seemed to me up until now. So, what > > have I overlooked, and am not aware of? > > Greg, > > you are correct about having speakup and the synth driver built in > giving you speech early in the boot process. However, it is not as > early as it was with the older kernels, and I personally do not know of > a way that we will be able to come up that early at this point. > > We made this change because of a bug that would cause the serial ports > that speakup was not using to be numbered incorrectly, for example, if > your synthesizer was on ttyS0 and you started speakup built in, ttyS1 > would be renumbered to ttyS0, but it would not be renumbered if you did > not start speakup or if it was not built in. This was caused because > speakup was being started before the kernel's serial driver. > > For newer kernels (I believe 2.6.26 or later when the accessibility > drivers first appeared), we are installing as an accessibility driver if > you build speakup into the kernel, and we are starting late enough that > this is not an issue. > > Let me know if that makes sense. > > William > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici covici at ccs.covici.com