Has anybody found a way to sign up for linuxquestions.org or even to contact them about their verification image requirement for registration. Even the contact email form requires image verification. If I have to I suppose I can try doing it in Orca with webvisium but this realloy gripes me. One ought to be able to at least contact them about this without stupid catcha!!! The only reason I even want to join is to try to see what's going on with mlbviewer since i just installed a whole bunch of packages now shown as required in the svn version of mlbviewer and still get "no stream available for this game" when i try to run it. -- Cheryl "Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."