To my way of thinking, and my recollection of history, Open Office has never been a dirty word. I include the dustup in Massachusetts when I say "history." Put simply, much of OO is very usable. I use it to do real work. Of course, that's with Orca, and not Speakup, as it's a gui application. Janina Steve Matzura writes: > Is that still a dirty word, or is it useable with Speakup or anything?