Hello Samuel, Chuck et al, Does anyone have a date (or idea of when)speakup will be included in the daily build? Or, barring that an updated mini-beep.iso with current kernel and speakup included? I'm at the point where I have to do a new install on a couple of machines. Without sighted assistance, I want speakup to be available during, and after, the install. As it appears, I can either install with Shane's old netinst cd and go throught the aptitude upgrade process to lenny, or wait for a new accessible installer. thanks in advance for any responses/suggestions, --terry -- Name: Terry D. Cudney Phone: 705-812-4949 SIP: 8978 at ekiga.net E-mail: terry at octothorp.org Having a smoking section in a restaurant is like... having a peeing sectionin a swimming pool. Tired of technology? Check this out: http://www.shibumi.org/eoti.htm