Tony and all, It looks like one needs to do a make, or perhaps a make modules, in the speakup/src directory before doing a make modules_install. When I do that, my modules extras directory is populated by the new compiles, and moving them into extras/speakup seems to complete the process as you described. Chuck -- The Moon is Waning Crescent (20% of Full) My web site: http://hallenbeck.ftml.net -- my telephone: 1-518-334-9022. -------- It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever final.