Hi, and if anyone wants the old keynote gold multimedia and old keysoft stuff I got, let me know. it's maybe oh uh 4.2mb or so there are 6 zip files. I think the demos have all the features of the full versions except they time out. Josh email: jkenn337 at gmail.com skype: jkenn337 msn: kenn6498ku at hotmail.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick Stockton" <nstockton@xxxxxxxxx> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 9:15 PM Subject: Re: 4DOS > well if no one is able to find the last version of the ASAP demo/update > from > 2001/2002 I still have it. > I got it off of the MicroTalk website before it went down years ago and > now > it appears the domain name was taken by a domain snatcher. > As far as running dos off of a USB thumb drive it wasn't that hard and I > was > surprised no one has ever done it before. > Still everyone I tell about it is very amazed and impressed so that's nice > *grin*. > First of all the computer I did this on was made before USB was very > popular > it was running win 95 version A when I got it so it had no concept of how > to > boot from a USB port. > After I put a USB PCI card in it what I did was to take a win 98 boot disc > I > had lying around and put some USB mass storage device drivers for dos on > it. > I also put some other things like generic cd drivers on it. > After that I used gnu/Linux to format the USB thumb drive with a fat file > system. > I next took my USB thumb drive and copied to it all my old dos programs > and > utilities from my very first computer's hard drive which I still have even > though my first computer it's self is long gone. > Lastly I booted from the floppy with the USB thumb drive plugged in and > after typing "sys c:" I added "SET COMSPEC=C:\COMMAND.COM" to > a:\autoexec.bat as well as adding the correct paths for everything to it. > Now when ever I want to boot it up I just have to be sure the floppy is in > the drive and it will boot automatically. > After it is done booting I can remove the floppy and I won't need to stick > it in again till the next time I need to boot dos. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tony Baechler" <tony at baechler.net> > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." > <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 8:20 AM > Subject: Re: 4DOS > > >> Hi, >> >> This is unofficial and you shouldn't take my word for it, but I have >> information from an undisclosed source that Larry Skutchan, (spelling?) >> doesn't really care what happens with Microtalk products anymore since >> they're long gone out of business anyway. I didn't get this from him >> and this specifically didn't mention ASAP, but I doubt if anyone would >> complain if a registered version was floating around somewhere. >> Vocal-Eyes is still being sold for $250 but I wouldn't buy it. >> Fortunately I still have it from when my parents bought it for me >> several years ago. >> >> How do you play TADS and Glulx games in DOS? I had to compile >> interpreters under Linux because the DOS programs worked so poorly. >> Mostly it's a problem with direct screen writes (apparently ASAP handles >> this better than most other screen readers) but it's also a memory >> issue. TADS has a plain mode but that gives no status line and breaks >> menus. It would be nice to find interpreters which support sound and no >> graphics. Also, how did you set up the USB to boot and actually work in >> DOS? What DOS version are you running? >> >> Nick Stockton wrote: >>> jaws for dos can be gotten from the following URL >>> http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_downloads/jdosfree.exe >>> I do not like it ASAP is much better IMO but I guess if you can't buy >>> asap >>> any more then jaws for dos is better than nothing. >>> I'm so lucky my mom knew her 5 year old son would one day be a hobbyist >>> in >>> to old computer systems and bought me a copy of ASAP and a litetalk back >>> when they were still being sold in the 90s. >>> I have a giant old computer from the 90s in the other room I put a very >>> old >>> USB card in and after some messing around with dos drivers and a win98 >>> boot >>> disc I still have, I now have a entire dos system running off of a >>> cheepo >>> 1-gig USB thumb drive complete with loads of games mainly z-code as they >>> are >>> best played in dos using ASAP. >>> You can play them under gnu/Linux using frotz but some times it wants to >>> reread messages it already read so playing using dos frotz with ASAP for >>> me >>> is better. >>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup