While we're discussing 4dos, can anyone tell me why it doesn't handle long file names under xp. 4nt does, but when you do a dir, it doesn't speak automatically. 4dos does, but for some reason it doesn't see xp as it does 98. In 98, it is smart enough to know you have long file name support. Just wondering if anyone knows of a solution. 73s Butch Bussen wa0vjr