Just realised I sent this from the wrong address so probably did not get to the list. I am having some problems with slrn and leafnode but I think the problem may be more slrn. I have leafnode configured and it appears to go and collect a list of newsgroups from the isp. However, running slrn gives the error connecting to debian.barrettpianos.co.uk runtime error failed to initialise server. I can telnet in by telnet localhost 119 and get a connection. I have also tryed with tin a while ago with similar resaults. Would be glad of some suggestions as I am not finding much info on the net. I presume slrn will work with speakup? Many thanks Keith