I'm using the link for windows media; I don't think it shows what player on our system it is using. Realaudio still doesn't work for me for nfl on linux. One strange thing: with some of the links, even though I use the wmp selection, a .ram file tries to open anyway which of course doesn't work. I don't know if information is being saved from when I tried to use the realaudio links before or what is happening there. This happened to me last night with the Seahawks game and I finally gave up and listened on Macosx. But when an asf-asx file is mentioned, it now does play for me. I've also decided not to check the box to be remembered on this computer; having that login dialog appear gives me one more indication of whether things are going right. -- Cheryl "Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."