I want to learn about Linux, use it to get real stuff like e-mail and personal word processing done, plus many other ideas of things I'd like to be able to do with it as an alternative to everything I now do in Windoes. The problem is, it seems that the only way into Linux is to be a programmer and have the time and energy to wade through the disorganized poorly written documentation out their in Linux land. Janina's stuff is well written, and usually she understands that some of us need to be lead by the hand as we're absorbing jargon and concepts, but that's the exception to most of what I've encountered and what has stopped me from persuing my interest. I would like to see a site with resources which would help me as an interested newbee which didn't expect I could program in C, have used UNIX for the last 40 years, and want to spend the few minutes I have to spare for this writing code I don't know how to write. As I see it, Linux will be a Geekish dead-end until it gets enough user's to fund useful interfaces and code for useful applications rather than tinker toys where people are talking about scripting this module and that, compiling Etc., something most of us who want to do real things have neither time nor patience or energy for not to mention expertise. (grin) So, education and tutorials, and ways those of us with Windows can get the tools to build our Linux computers which will most likely be retired Windows boxes until we get good and knowledgeable enough to build dedicated Linux boxes from scratch. Nick On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 08:41:47 -0600, Dawes, Stephen wrote: All, I have been in discussions with Kirk on taking over the managing of the Speakup Web site. My open-ended question to you is: What do you want to see in a revitalized Web site? I have intentionally left this question open-ended because I am looking for all ideas. I am not wanting to start out by having my ideas drive the discussion. Remember, this is your speakup Web site, so it has to be useful to you, inviting to anyone new, and usable by anyone using a screen reader. All ideas welcome. Steve Dawes Phone: (403) 268-5527 Email: SDawes at calgary.ca NOTICE - This communication is intended ONLY for the use of the person or entity named above and may contain information that is confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient named above or a person responsible for delivering messages or communications to the intended recipient, YOU ARE HEREBY NOTIFIED that any use, distribution, or copying of this communication or any of the information contained in it is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone and then destroy or delete this communication, or return it to us by mail if requested by us. The City of Calgary thanks you for your attention and co-operation. _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup at braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1378 - Release Date: 4/15/2008 9:12 AM