I will also point out two things: First speakup will autodetect graphics mode now thus not needing to be turned off for Orca use. Second if you really want documentation you should read the git log which comes with every, count them, every speakup.git repository. All changes to speakup are documented there, although occasionally not very verbosely. Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility e-mail: kirk at braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario phone: (519) 661-3061