In a recent message, Dialog was brought up and that reminds me about what I would like to do with it. What seems to be the biggest problem for me is the inability to track cursor positioning and to know precisely which buttons are highlighted befor choosing. Yes, you can do that double speak trick to identify the current position in a list but that is awkward at best and I don't remember right now how well the highlight option works with dialog. Besides, I don't think the version of speakup on Slackware supports that highlight option either. What I would like to do with dialog is get into the program and add logic to set the cursor position each time an item is highlighted. I think a similar thing was done to the menuconfig script for the linux kernel paatched by speakup. That is, the menuconfig doesn't position the cursor without the speakup patches either. So, I think it is time to update dialog with such a change and see if that can be included into their production path. I think dialog is a cool way to create simple menus with little effort. I found a similar deal for perl scripts and it *DOES* do cursor positioning in its default form; just need to do a little something to their radio buttons but every thing else works with it. -- HolmesGrown Solutions The best solutions for the best price! http://holmesgrown.ld.net/