I might be a little off for inserting myself into your conversation, but I just have a hardware question. My understanding of the computer, ?n any of its forms ends with the software, so I just thought I would learn. I just bought this intel, pentium 4 a few weeks ago, and I have not had a lick of trouble out of it. What is the problem with intel, so that I might watch it and be careful to try to avoid it on this one. I have never worked with one of those sub-laptop machines? What are they like? How much memory do they have? How hard are they to port Linux to? Do they really work well? This laptop is really good for me . It has all the hardware I need. It seems to run Linux with ?\no problem at all. I just want to make one recommendation to anyone interested in purchasing a new machine, just be sure yyou test it really well with the distribution you want to use. This is one other reason to use grml or any of the live cd distros. You can just get hold of the machine, either on the shelf at the store, or wherever you go to pick it up, put in the di?k, hit the starter and see if it is going to come up talking. This was part of my decision to get this one, not to mention that it is a laptop, and I have developed a real interest in them since they have started making them better. Now, I wonder about this situation. Whoever it was on here who has a mac book, what are you using for speech? Do you use Linux, since the machine has an intel chip, or do you use something on the mac-osx system? well, I'll get out of here, and let you experts discuss more relevant matters. Thanks for the information. Sincerely: -- Doug Smith: C.S.F.C. Computer Scientist For CHRIST