debian distros with speech?

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Hi all,
Recently someone posted indicating that debian does not come directly with 
speakup included in the distribution.
I understand that there other locations from where you can download a 
debian distribution containing speak up even if not the most recent Kernel

  Is the same the case for Orca?
and or is it possible to find  or even create a debian package that has 
both screen readers?
Forgive me if this is a strange question.  I am wanting to be certain the 
distribution I get has speech and recall from reading other posts that 
this is not quite as easy as it might seem.

Karen





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