Sure it does Shaun. You may have just forgot the details at your advanced age of sometimers. Try: cvs -d:pserver:anonymous at linux-speakup.org:/usr/src/CVS login (password 'please') cvs -d:pserver:anonymous at linux-speakup.org:/usr/src/CVS co speak_freely It'll be good to have you back on the reflector from time to time. Kirk -- Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility e-mail: kirk at braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario phone: (519) 661-3061