Hello, Thanks for that information, got brltty working (using second method). It seems like orca isn't behaving as I would expect though, sometimes it never seems to respond (don't know if something is happening in gnome, suspect that something might as the CD sometimes spins up when I try some stuff). This is things like reading applications, sometimes its own control panel, and sometimes anything. Also I found out why it wasn't speaking. While I was in text mode, I loaded alsamixer, everything was muted. I raised the volume and orca now speaks (when it responds). I doubt it is system specs as I have 2.4GHz pentium4 and 1.5 GB ram. Could there be a problem with the CD drive I am using, it is a slower (32x read I think) CDRW, but I use this one as the other I have in the machine is a cheap one that doesn't always work properly although faster (when I installed slackware, and it searched for the CD using the cheap drive, it required the disk to be ejected and re-inserted before it was recognised). Any possible solution using orca, or is there a text install where I can use brltty and/or speakup? Its a shame that it doesn't quite work straight of the box on all systems, just a good job I tried it with my laptop first and had it just working, or I probably would have just passed on it. From Michael Whapples ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lutz Kaiser" <lutz.kaiser@xxxxxxx> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 11:44 AM Subject: Re: Problems with installing ubuntu > Hi, > i downloaded the alternate version and with it, you can install with > brailesupport. > When booting press "f6" and type: > "install brltty=cb,ttyS0,de" > which worked for my combibraile and german layout. > > Please be aware, that on the installed Partition brltty does not start > automatically and you have to make the changes yourself in the > brltty.conf. > > another method to check on the live-cd: > press ctrl+alt+f1" > type sudo brltty -b cb -d ttyS0 -t de > (the commands for my Brailedisplay) and the Braildisplay will work > then orca -t > -which is a textversion to setup Orca, with Speech and braile > > good success > Lutz >