Hi Kenny, Thanks for the info. I am pretty far along with the garnome route at the moment. It turned out to be a problem of unmet dependencies, but there is a config.log generated for each step, and I've been able to meet those issues one by one as they have come along. Chuck -- The Moon is Waning Crescent (17% of Full) Only 10 kinds of people: those who do binary, and those who do not. But you can get a few downloads from http://www.mhcable.com/~chuckh