A friend and me did get ubuntu 6.10 installed and talking. This was a more current beta disk we had used. Keying in F5 and then 3 on boot up brought up ubuntu and I didn't try running orca during that install either. Running the installer had to be done using the mouse since keying in alt-f2 and typing install and enter didn't start the install program for some reason. After the install was finished and I rebooted, I heard the drums and found out from my friend ubuntu wanted the user name and password. So I keyed each in and hit return after each then orca came up talking after that. A very fast boot up on hard disk as compared to CDROM. I could using another hard drive I have try another ubuntu install and see if I can get orca and install to both come up talking but I would like to know how to tell ubuntu todisregard the mouse and use the conventional keyboard only since that may clear up the difficulty running install on this system for me.