About your second question -- installing with just a sound card (ie w/o a hardware synth). I will bet that you can do it simply by booting with a grml CD and using the grml installler grml2hd. I would try that first. I haven't actually done that though. Something that I know will work because I've done it is to boot from a knoppix modified cd and then manually doing each installation step., fdisk, debootstrap, etc. I haven't actually done this in a while, but what you can do is boot from the speakup modified knoppix CD at ftp://mirror.services.wisc.edu/mirrors/linux/distributions/speakup/disks/knoppix/KNOPPIX-speakup-V3.4-20040714.iso Then follow the instructions at this page: http://www.inittab.de/manuals/debootstrap.html That would probably be the hard way. But I know it will work. ----- Original Message ----- From: "randy turner" <rturner222@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "Glenn at home" <GlennErvin at cableone.net>; "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 2:11 PM Subject: Re: What's the advantage of a hardware synth? > > hi glenn, > can you give me the link to the isa computers? > also does anybody know of a document > that explanes how to install linux from scratch using just a sound card > for there speach? > say that you had a formatted drive with nothing on it > now if you have a doubletalk you just put in the install cd and type > speakup.s speakup_synth=dtlk > is there anything simular if you just had a sound card? > thanks in advance > randy turner > > > > On Wed, 8 Nov 2006, Glenn at home wrote: > >> The main reason is if the sound card doesn't work, we have the reliable >> synth to be working. >> I don't know if it can be compared to windows, but in windows, if we have >> to >> boot with no drivers, some internal speech cards would work with no >> drivers >> installed. >> And I do have a link to a 300+ dollar motherboard with an ISA slot. >> I think there are some less expensive ones out there, but they were >> limited >> to a slow bus speed, and a 2GB processor at best. >> Glenn >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jonathan Duddington" <jsd at clara.co.uk> >> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." >> <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 6:41 PM >> Subject: What's the advantage of a hardware synth? >> >> >> In article <Pine.LNX.4.64.0611081636470.1525 at darkstar.example.net>, >> randy turner <rturner222 at sbcglobal.net> wrote: >> >>> do they still build any computers with the older isa slots? >>> also has any company built any pci synths that will work in linux? >>> what are the choices that are left for linux?? >> >> I'm not visually impaired and I've not used a hardware synth myself, >> but I'm curious. What is the advantage of a hardware synth over a >> software synth? >> >> I can think of a few possibilities, but I'm curious which are true and >> are important for those who use or prefer hardware synths: >> >> 1. It doesn't affect the computer's sound system, which can therefore >> play other sounds unaffected by the TTS. This could probably be >> achieved for a software synth by using two sound cards. >> >> 2. System startup messages can be spoken before the point when the >> sound system and synth software is initialized and working. This would >> be overcome by the proposed "Spoken Boot" feature. >> >> 3. Problems with installing and setting up a software synth. >> >> 4. Prefer the sound of the hardware synth voice to those currently >> available with software synths. >> >> 5. Limitations of computer processor power or memory, although I doubt >> this is an issue now. >> >> 6. The hardware synth offers some feature not available in the >> software synths. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >