There's a very easy way to indicate the failure rate of the Speakup FC-6... ask one simple quesiton: How many people out there (blind or otherwise) have been successfully able to install from the CD or DVD ISO's? I bet the number is far lower than what it should be. Anyone trying to install on a stand alone system, without network card are likely to have the highest difficulty, as I did. For now, I'd like a poll on just how many ordinary every day people have been sucessfull at installing. And trying the Debian or other distro would, for the exact same reason, be also extremely problematical: If you do not have highspeed to supplement the installation once the base OS itself is installed, you are screwed. That is what makes Fedora Core so wonderful, it actually comes with everything all at once. You do not have to use a network to download most productivity items, they will be right there for you! And yes, when I am online with Fedora Core 5, as with all versions I have used, I am using an ordinary modem, and dial up connetion. And yes, I have been able to use yum to properly fetch, install, and update many packages using dial up. Some mentioned something about using a special boot ISO included with the distribution.. problem is that would not work for anybody that does not have a separate computer to link too, making that whole approach kind of lame in my opinion. I am still hoping some solution is out there. One final important comment: Just because the ISO images check out with proper checksums in no way suggests, implies, or quarantees that an installation is possible: such tests only indicate that the file checksums are correct, there can most certainly still be errors in the installer or any other file... if that is what was added to the installation package. So let us understand that a proper checksum can not, and by definition, will not, ensure you can install any distro of linux. //Rich// ____________________________________________________________________________________ Sponsored Link $200,000 mortgage for $660/mo - 30/15 yr fixed, reduce debt, home equity - Click now for info http://yahoo.ratemarketplace.com