Thanks for the heads up Garret. I had forgot to put the cvs port in the allowed ports for the linux-speakup.org interface. Cvs speakup has already been patched for the 2.6.16 kernel thanks to Daniel Drake. He checked them in within minutes of the 2.6.16 release. Kirk -- Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility e-mail: kirk at braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario phone: (519) 661-3061