Unless they've changed something Clara isn't accessible. The web interface is designed for sharing font images for a font database but the operation is all 'X' or it was when I last looked at it. Ocrad however does a pretty good job in general. Not as good as the commercial engines but all-in-all not bad. There are debian packages for ocrad and I imagine rpm as well. I have been working recently on improving socrates support to handle a range of engines and do some hand and automated scanner control for things like resolution, scale and contrast. Kirk -- Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility e-mail: kirk at braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario phone: (519) 661-3061