Compared to the oasis, they are complex. For instance, to sset the alarm on my 6620, I have to press the menu bbutton, find the extras folder, open it, find the clocck, open it, choose options, activate set alarm, type in the digits, clickk done, exit exit.... It's doable, just unweildy. Of course, that's an unfaiir comparison, the oasis has no alarm. HHowever, my main ppoint of comparison is that the oasis is simple and basic and embedded. My 6620 is feature rich but complex and had to have talks loaded on it. On Jul 19, 2006, at 3:25 PM, Farhan wrote: How are the menus complex in a symbian based phone? I'm not trying to attack you or anything, i'm generally curious, I had know problem figuring out how to use my phone the first day I got it. On 7/19/2006 at 14:24 David Poehlman said Michael, I also own a nokia 6620 phone. I use that one too. The issue I have with itt is that it just does too much that I'll never do or not much and the layout is complex and the menus are way complex. On Jul 19, 2006, at 8:04 AM, Michael Whapples wrote: There are alternatives to the Owasys which offer the same functionality (possibly more), such as a symbian phone and talks. Maybe in your case the cost difference was greater, but for me buying a symbian phone and talks was only marginly more expensive than a Owasys (my feeling was the little extra was worth having a phone which has a large user base, should have very few bugs, and if any updates are needed can be done locally and not mean I will be without my phone for any significant time, plenty of extras available if I wanted something for my phone (and not just nokia originals), and the specialist bit could be removed if there was any problem caused by that leaving me with a fully functional phone). While all that seems very negative about it, I will accept for some an Owasys may be the correct choice (may be you fall in that category), but equally I feel that some choose it for the wrong reason (I am struggling to find quite the wording I want, reasons such as it is what they believe is accessible to them, because they think things with a screen has been visually designed so could never be accessible). I feel I now need to try and restrain myself as I am getting close to my strong feelings, and I don't really feel this is really sufficiently on topic for this list. We may just have to agree to differ on this if anyone disagrees with what I have said. From Michael Whapples ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 11:13 AM Subject: Re: Re[2]: Owasys 22C Screenless Cellphone > I will buy and use off the shelf products when possible. In our case > tthough, we needed the functionality. > > It's new, many things start out as new. Hopefully it'lll catch on > and > then we'll have a product we can use that is truly embedded. > _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup at braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup at braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup at braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
