The linux utilities are called "fromdos" and "todos" but they are in a package called sysutils which you have to get with apt-get also. You know what I would do if I were you? I would start over again with a fresh install of Debian making sure I could get speech right out of the Debian box from the get-go. What CD did you use? Is it the speakup modified net-install disk everyone else uses? What hardware synth do you have to put on your Debian box? You can install Debian using speech and without sighted assistance, by starting like this once your installation disk reaches the boot prompt: speakup speakup_synth=ltlk where ltlk stands for the litetalk, or some other abbreviation if that is what you have. Then carefully follow the instructions, and be sure to pick "network install" instead of "install from CD" when the question arises. It's no big deal to start over. Look at what you've already learned doing what you have done. Next time will be a snap. -- The Moon is Waning Gibbous (98% of Full) But you can still get downloads from http://www.mhcable.com/~chuckh