Well, Kirk you said the magic word "daemon". I was thinking about the problem today and thought that I hadn't invoked speechd-up with the -d switch, instead I had done a --single-probe and when I did that things began to work. By the way I am using the 2.6.12 pre-compiled speakup kernel off of people.debian.org. echo works fine, the only problem is that I have to re-initialize speechd-up when I switch back from Doubletalk PC to sftsyn. I'm writing a program that will allow me to do the whole thing in a few keystrokes as well as initializing the software synthesizer from an initialization script if I need to. Ralph, I got your message but haven't tried it yet. Thanks. Jim Wantz WB0TFK My apologies to everyone else on this list!