Steve, Thanks for all that detective work. Those settings work well for me too. When you send "cap" to caps-start, are you noticing that quotation marks tag along? You may have to do a speakupconf load, and then speakupconf save, to see them added. On my system that happens consistently, but only on the sftsyn device. Curios. Chuck -- The Moon is Waning Crescent (23% of Full) Only 10 kinds of people: those who do binary, and those who do not. But you can get a few downloads from http://www.mhcable.com/~chuckh