Garret, In this case, the speakup drivers were compiled into the kernel, since I was not using an initrd and wanted speech from the start of bootup. So speakup_ser=4 was out. But I was able to put the synthesizer on ttyS0, and use ttyS4 for brltty, which is less particular about such things. One thing I have noticed though is that when the brltty driver is loaded, the "continuous read" feature is lost. I no longer have that system here, and did not look into it further while I had it. Otherwise, everything got resolved okay. Chuck -- The Moon is Waning Gibbous (97% of Full) Only 10 kinds of people: those who do binary, and those who do not. But you can get a few downloads from http://www.mhcable.com/~chuckh
