why in the world every time we mention the nfb doing something that damages us as blind persons as a hole, they come out the wood work and start crying? BlindTech of BlindTechs.Net blindtech at blindtechs.net website: http://blindtechs.net Visit our website where we offer free email, shell accoiunts, shoutcast radio service, online games and more! Powered by Unix not Microsoft On Mar 31, 2006, at 10:46 PM, Beth Hatch wrote: > Hi Travis, > > As I recall, the issue was not wanting to depend *Souly* on > Microsoft to > provide a screen reader, it wasn't the NFB wanting to give money to > vendors. > This discussion was going along fine until we had to get politics into > it.<smile> > > Beth > > -----Original Message----- > From: speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup- > bounces at braille.uwo.ca] > On Behalf Of Travis Siegel > Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 8:07 PM > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. > Subject: Re: New Linux PDA For Blind People > > Actually, Microsoft *tried* to include a screen reader with their > operating > system. But, after the nfb got done raking them over the coals > claiming it > would bankrupt all the 3rd-party developers of screen readers, ms > toned it > down, and it became ... narrator. > So, if you want to blame someone for ms not having a built-in > screen reader > like OSX does, Call your local NFB office, and ask them. > On Mar 31, 2006, at 6:15 PM, Darragh wrote: > >> Hello all, >> >> Lets not be unrealistic here. The developers of this machine are out >> to make money. Their not out to help all us por unfortunate blind >> people. >> We don't >> live in an ideal world, People don't ordinarily write accessible >> software out of the goodness of their heart and Microsoft won't start >> shipping screen readers with their operating systems. >> >> My point is: Lets stop debating amunxt our selves. Stop complaining >> that we have to pay higher prices for accessible hardware and >> software. >> Lets face >> it, most of us would charge the same if not more if given the chance >> and why not! A lot of development and research go into these things. >> >> I've read some really thought out messages regarding this topic in >> the >> last few days. I'd say one thing to the authors of these rants: "Do >> you not think your energy would be better spent attacking software >> developers such as adobe and Microsoft rather than writing pointless >> arguments on a list where lets face it, most people hate paying for >> windows software never mind access software to read it! >> >> That's my minor rant over for the night. >> >> Darragh >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup- >> bounces at braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Janina Sajka >> Sent: 01 April 2006 01:08 >> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. >> Subject: Re: New Linux PDA For Blind People >> >> ace writes: >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>> Hash: SHA1 >>> >>> What is actually included on the hand-held part of the unit? >> >> Most important, the hard drive is in the hand held. Also, the radios >> will be in there, though initially only WiFi. >> >> As for software, everything is in there too. But, you probably don't >> want to write very much email--or your Ph.D. thesis using only the >> 12-key. >> >> I should say that I'm writing the manual. Here's an excerpt from the >> current Table Of Contents: >> >> >> Doing Things: The Icon's Applications >> The Bookshelf: Integrated DAISY and BookShare Browser The News Stand: >> Magazines and Newspapers -- Your Daily Diet Of News >> The Jukebox: A HiFi Stereo Music Player In The Palm Of Your Hand >> Planner: Addressbook, Calendar, Appointments, And Automated Reminders >> Taking Notes: One Touch Audio Recording or Text Notes--You Choose >> Word Processor >> E-Mail >> Web Browser >> Podcast Player: The Latest Thing Made Easy Tracking Your Money: The >> Icon's Financial Tools The Calculator: >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
