New Linux PDA For Blind People

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why in the world every time we mention the nfb doing something that  
damages us as blind persons as a hole, they come out the wood work  
and start crying?


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On Mar 31, 2006, at 10:46 PM, Beth Hatch wrote:

> Hi Travis,
>
> As I recall, the issue was not wanting to depend *Souly* on  
> Microsoft to
> provide a screen reader, it wasn't the NFB wanting to give money to  
> vendors.
> This discussion was going along fine until we had to get politics into
> it.<smile>
>
> Beth
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup- 
> bounces at braille.uwo.ca]
> On Behalf Of Travis Siegel
> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 8:07 PM
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Subject: Re: New Linux PDA For Blind People
>
> Actually, Microsoft *tried* to include a screen reader with their  
> operating
> system.  But, after the nfb got done raking them over the coals  
> claiming it
> would bankrupt all the 3rd-party developers of screen readers, ms  
> toned it
> down, and it became ... narrator.
> So, if you want to blame someone for ms not having a built-in  
> screen reader
> like OSX does, Call your local NFB office, and ask them.
> On Mar 31, 2006, at 6:15 PM, Darragh wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> Lets not be unrealistic here. The developers of this machine are out
>> to make money. Their not out to help all us por unfortunate blind
>> people.
>> We don't
>> live in an ideal world, People don't ordinarily write accessible
>> software out of the goodness of their heart and Microsoft won't start
>> shipping screen readers with their operating systems.
>>
>> My point is: Lets stop debating amunxt our selves. Stop complaining
>> that we have to pay higher prices for accessible hardware and
>> software.
>> Lets face
>> it, most of us would charge the same if not more if given the chance
>> and why not! A lot of development and research go into these things.
>>
>> I've read some really thought out messages regarding this topic in  
>> the
>> last few days. I'd say one thing to the authors of these rants: "Do
>> you not think your energy would be better spent attacking software
>> developers such as adobe and Microsoft rather than writing pointless
>> arguments on a list where lets face it, most people hate paying for
>> windows software never mind access software to read it!
>>
>> That's my minor rant over for the night.
>>
>> Darragh
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-
>> bounces at braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Janina Sajka
>> Sent: 01 April 2006 01:08
>> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
>> Subject: Re: New Linux PDA For Blind People
>>
>> ace writes:
>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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>>>
>>> What is actually included on the hand-held part of the unit?
>>
>> Most important, the hard drive is in the hand held. Also, the radios
>> will be in there, though initially only WiFi.
>>
>> As for software, everything is in there too. But, you probably don't
>> want to write very much email--or your Ph.D. thesis using only the
>> 12-key.
>>
>> I should say that I'm writing the manual. Here's an excerpt from the
>> current Table Of Contents:
>>
>>
>> Doing Things: The Icon's Applications
>> The Bookshelf: Integrated DAISY and BookShare Browser The News Stand:
>> Magazines and Newspapers -- Your Daily Diet Of News
>> The Jukebox:    A HiFi Stereo Music Player In The Palm Of Your Hand
>> Planner: Addressbook, Calendar, Appointments, And Automated Reminders
>> Taking Notes:   One Touch Audio Recording or Text Notes--You Choose
>> Word Processor
>> E-Mail
>> Web Browser
>> Podcast Player: The Latest Thing Made Easy Tracking Your Money: The
>> Icon's Financial Tools The Calculator:
>>
>>
>>
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