-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Ok, got this one solved too. I ended up going through my /etc/apache/mod_ssl.conf, and commenting out the <IfDefine SSL> and </IfDefine> lines. and things work now. As far as I can tell, there's no other way to define parameters, other then through the -D flag to the apache daemon, and I don't feel like modifying the apachectl script every time it gets updated. Again, thanks to all for your help and suggestions. Greg - -- web site: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org gpg public key: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc skype: gregn1 (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) - -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager at EU.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDLdVE7s9z/XlyUyARAsJ7AKCKrRMYtbirtSIU07doq+iCUqvRlACdE/9M HVfr7LOcNOBgZNHjlHHYSFk= =fXjt -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----