There are a few lists for discussion of voiceover and/or developing for such. Apple has some at www.apple.com/accessability (don't remember exactly where, but they don't have much traffic, and are mostly used by folks looking to develop apps for the mac. The best by far is the mac visionaries list, and it can be found (interestingly enough) at http://www.macvisionaries.com. The archives for the list are there, so you can read all of the past messages, as well as join new, and get involved with several other voiceover users. It's a very good place to ask questions, and get help, as the group is fairly responsive to quiries. Hope this helps. On Oct 25, 2005, at 9:31 AM, John G. Heim wrote: > This is not a complaint about the OT thread. In fact, I'm kind of > glad it came up. I work at the University of Wisconsin in the Math > department. The department gave me a Macintosh to take home with > the idea that I'd learn how to use VoiceOver. never having used a > Mac before, I am having a real hard time just getting started. > > Is there a blind Mac users list? How about just a general Mac > users list? > > > > At 04:01 PM 10/24/2005, Sean McMahon wrote: > >> There was a voiceover review demo type thing on the acbradio >> archives. Go to >> the acbradio site and search for mainmenu under on-demand radio. >> I can also >> give you an email of someone who uses the voiceover or has tested >> some of it if >> that person gives you permission and you need that. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Deedra Waters" <dmwaters at gentoo.org> >> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> >> Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 11:22 AM >> Subject: off topic: accessibility with mac stuff? >> >> >> > This is offtopic, but not real sure where to ask this. I know a >> while >> > back apple was doing accessibility beta testing with tiger when >> it was >> > in the testing faze. >> > >> > I'm wondering wether anyone knows how accessible mac osx is. >> I've heard >> > both that tiger is good, and that it needs improvement. I'm >> looking at >> > buying a new laptop soon, and i'd rather aim for a mac this time. >> > >> > If anyone has been brave enough to test this, or is using it, >> i'd be >> > interested in feedback offlist. Thanks! >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Deedra Waters - Gentoo developer relations, accessibility and >> infrastructure - >> > dmwaters at gentoo.org >> > Gentoo linux: http://www.gentoo.org >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Speakup mailing list >> > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> > > -- > John G. Heim > jheim at math.wisc.edu > 3-4189 > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >