John, there are many such lists. Apple also has a spoken VoiceOver guide on their accessibility site http://apple.com/accessibility You'll find mostly developer lists on http://lists.apple.com, and like someone here mentioned, there's also mailing lists for blind mac users at http://www.macvisionaries.com/mailinglists.php. There's also some at the macintosh guy's website - http://www.themacintoshguy.com/lists/ A google search for them will probably come up with a lot. There's probably a chance there will be some Mac related lists over at gmane, MARC or mail-archives.com too. Cheers jane