I just installed an older version of fedora with speakup. I'm downloading a later version but it will be a while beforre its done. What brought me to try linux is that I'm taking a local area network class and the chapter we're working in deals wiht unix/linux. I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it robert Doc Wright http://www.wrightplaceinc.net msn godfearer15 at hotmail.com