Folks, here is an update on my non-booting Debian box. Well with Keith's help, we determined that the box will in fact boot. The problem is when I have my external DoubleTalk (ltlk) attached to either serial port, the box will not boot. However, if I remove the synthesizer, the box will boot. I have no clue what the hell is going on. I tried a 2.6.12 and 2.6.13 kernel and no joy. Speakup is built into the kernel and even trying to switch to the software synth isn't working either, but at least while in that console the console isn't hungup, but soon as I try to use the hardware synth, it gets hung, not the box, but can't use that console so apparently Speakup is probing for the synth and not finding it. Any suggestions are appreciated and I should mention that I can echo text to the synth directly by echo words >/dev/ttyS0. I'm going to go over the kernel again and see if I accidentally removed something or added something that could cause problems. tnx Scott