Hi all, since i started this exchange here, I thought I would with a bit of an update, and a small request. The company in question, webcrossing, is not only willing to re-event the wheel, they are asking how. I again am not talking about messenger services, or irc, or some of the other chat locations. webcrossing provides free of chart, a chat client for their customers to use. It also supports javascript, I have discovered, but they want to be sure it include other protocols for greater accessibility. so, given I am no programmer, can those here who are mor expert suggest standard protocols that should be included so that more browsers can also access their chat area? interestingly enough, everything else works fine, but nothing else involves Java in any way. Thanks for your input. Karen