Hi Janina, The point is one of personal curiocity, questions about software engineering, and just general interest in why. I really would like to know if something like this is possible, and if the only reason for having it in the kernel is for boot messages. Plus, I like SpeakUP, *smile* Take care, Sina -----Original Message----- From: speakup-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Janina Sajka Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 3:38 PM To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Subject: Re: Speakup in user space, why or why not? Sina, I don't understand the "why" of your question. You already have emacspeak, speech-dispatcher, and yasr for speech as user space based access. You So, what's the point? Sina Bahram writes: > I thank you all for one fact. I have learned that I need to learn how > to write emails better. > > I will never, ever again, mention an example! > > Please do not suggest ways of making FreeBSD accessible ... It was an > off hand comment. I did not imply that FreeBSD is inaccessible because > it doesn't have SpeakUP on it or anything ... I was simply using it as > an example. > > I know about BrailleTTY, I know about YASR, and I know about > EmacSpeak, and some other stuff ... That's not the point of my email though, my friends. > > User space ... That is the question: user space. > > Take care, > Sina > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca > [mailto:speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca] > On Behalf Of Garrett Klein > Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 2:40 PM > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. > Subject: Re: Speakup in user space, why or why not? > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA512 > > Another option is using yasr with FreeBSD, after instalation of > course. Note that I've never actually tried this myself, but in theory it should work. > > Garrett > > On Sun, Oct 02, 2005 at 01:34:40PM -0500, Gregory Nowak wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 02, 2005 at 02:03:37PM -0400, Sina Bahram wrote: > > > For example, I want to learn FreeBSD, because a friend of mine has > > > been telling me all about it, and I'd like to play around with it. > > > I would, of course, like to use speakup with it. Could this be possible? > > > > > Yes, it could. Netbsd, and probably freebsd as well allows you to > > install the system via a serial console. Once that's done, you can > > use ssh on a speakup-enabled gnu/linux system to access your freebsd > > box, thus being able to use speakup in freebsd (grin). Seriously > > though, yes, I know this isn't exactly what you meant, but not > > having speakup run in user space is not a big obstacle to using > > freebsd, provided that you have at least 2 computers that you can > > use, one to run gnu/linux, and the other to run freebsd. > > > > Greg > > > > > > > > -- > > web site: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org gpg public key: > > http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc > > skype: gregn1 > > (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) > > > > -- > > Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager at EU.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) > > iQIVAwUBQ0Apl/Q3GgYHRr/HAQpFAw//WudbMSVSawv2APTOoXLSTF0HzDMwp/k9 > I7FvHGQdPEJwgXvkwMihUY8qm2W+3WG3uJTVerTecJcIzNShK2ce4FGUkBwl3A3w > 4vOkNfCsKGLzAtVF88m/6LYju6vWJK3WmJj3o/ZT6qe3pMfiqJsGtY1RIbI8VxuQ > tiq4xIA5VRqNCaenA3ruOOvoYOeLx1J9arYEoWN8JVgPeN12A4Tdzx8O5wiJiRXn > 2eTgh8+4/h2Sd7y4gME4QT1LpLEa9JhOhsHYzNPCC6hMvhPeG8qXuSuvKk/2jSI0 > 9vNFVwv4VXolxNJ5XXKAnvv68eNOkh+/pzQAwITquuj9GoIpd2Su8EsGwUq0mCSE > gnY7GcpPHtz7lQldqOobzJncwTXb2Dw+fGgPmpWZc9yyy5TtDz/R4Y3tRQsxWNSu > ysQOltGVzdqXZSNZJfY+EITnTzbyPLtUZrl8pJJtpfjzNmKfT2B1PLbazMJDih6R > W3s1/X8JYh2pLbhxbyj5ijFXzN8s+CGcdj1+zFlLQ9ZkEElRVPQdxGkN3m7hZoJC > cRcDvDZ1SdDSMBno1rsPhC9Z03v6Vsbzqk6LJkYVgQgTd9YnSM3FiuZwqeAnNTj6 > Ndd7n/k+qfUiloTEyTk9jb4F7xP2wHHPHO+BtGA6n1aZdVwD/DYrDRnOKeNaSOov > aur9ZVhQtTM= > =JDMF > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka Phone: +1.240.715.1272 Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com Bringing the Owasys 22C screenless cell phone to the U.S. and Canada. Go to http://www.ScreenlessPhone.Com to learn more. Chair, Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina at freestandards.org http://a11y.org _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup at braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup