Hi, This is the attitude below that turns off the new user! Quite often the user has know idea where to rtfm as you put it. If you are going to refer the user to documentation it might be a good idea to refair them to a section of the manual explaining what ever it is they are asking about. Also not every user understands what the manual is talking about. As far as gnopernicus goes I do not see a manual page nor a info page on it. It is not covered in any of the users guide I have seen so far. So where do we go to rtfm as you put it. Remember experts out there that you were a new user once. Also remember experts out there that in one place you are an expert in others you might be a novus. Remember experts who have decided to be teachers andsuporters of the program that reading manuals is good but a person needs to know what manual to read. -----Original Message----- From: speakup-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Kenny Hitt Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 8:05 AM To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Subject: Re: speakup fedora core howto Hi. Startx won't beep. You really need to go learn the basics of X. Once again! RTFM Kenny On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 10:56:16AM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: > I have tried running gnopernicus in personal desktop type install and > also > in workstation type mode as well as server type. The personal desktop and > workstation types failed completely. The software was put onto the system > to run, but no speech in either of those installation types. tried both > telinit 5 and startx. Startx so far doesn't work in server type over here > but telinit 5 did work. I expect the custom type to do no better than > personal desktop or workstation. The startx command never gets to the > short beep on any of these installation types. > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup at braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup