Kenny, Ok very good, but I do have a scsi scanner and if memory serves me, I needed the scsi emulation for this the sg .um think that was what its called. Been a while since I brewed a kernel, but perhaps I need to go back and have a look over this. I have actually and don't ask why, its a good story over a cold beer, but I have a scsi scanner, a scsi burner, and the ide burner. Now yes I could get rid of the scsi burner, but gee it works, but it doesn't burn dvd discs. What my plan was for one thing is to cook up a dvd disc I could take to work with all my favorite music on it and have something that would play all day long. I like having the other burner as a second cdrom drive if nothing else. I hope I can keep the scsi scanner and burner on this box so will look over the kernel options very carefully. Well in any event it looks like if I want to burn dvds I'll have to find another version of cdrecord as the one that comes with Debian does not apparently have the code for dowing this or at least the output would indicate this. Scott