I'd like to pointout that if you are relying on the naming and building convention posted at http://www.rpm.org/RPM-HOWTO/build.htmll , Fedora uses something different. based on the name of the speakup kernel rpm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dawes, Stephen" <Stephen.Dawes@xxxxxxxxxx> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 9:07 AM Subject: RE: Speakup Modified Fedora 4 Will Be Delayed Yes you have answered that portion of the question, but you refuse to answer the question about where in the rpm naming convention does it tell me where the level of patching is indicated. You have said that the kernel is a 2.6.11 kernel that has a number of patches that makes it appear to be a 2.6.12 kernel. So do you or don't you know where it tells this information in the rpm naming convention and where exactly it is located in the kernel-2.6.11-1.136_FC4.i686.rpm name. There is an old clich? that goes something like, "if it walks like a duck, looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it must be a duck." Well, as I said a long while back, if it looks like kernel-2.6.12, and it acts like kernel 2.6.12, then don't call it something that it isn't as fedora has done. Janina, I have noticed something about the way in which you answer questions over the years. That is that you don't answer the entire question, but that you only answer the portion of the question that you feel like. This approach only provides partial information, and often is not what the requestor is looking for. You wrote that you maintain the fedora speakup modified howto, and for the work you do on this document it is good. However, your howto is only an installation document, and when people want to go beyond the information provided you start to get defensive and call their quest for information things like idle speculation. Janina, what is idle information is partial answers like the ones that you are in the habit of providing to peoples questions. Steve Dawes Phone: (403) 268-5527 Email: SDawes at calgary.ca NOTICE - This communication is intended ONLY for the use of the person or entity named above and may contain information that is confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient named above or a person responsible for delivering messages or communications to the intended recipient, YOU ARE HEREBY NOTIFIED that any use, distribution, or copying of this communication or any of the information contained in it is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone and then destroy or delete this communication, or return it to us by mail if requested by us. The City of Calgary thanks you for your attention and cooperation. _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup at braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup