There is a not very suffisticated daisy reader known as listen-up in the speakup project cvs repository. We are trying to make it a bit better but don't have anything new yet but what is there works. I believe you can get the details on the speakup project web page. Kirk -- Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility e-mail: kirk at braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario phone: (519) 661-3061