For some reason Suse and Mandrake are two distributions which nobody has ever stepped forward to support and maintain speakup versions of. We would love to have them to make available but I don't have the time so unless someone volunteers you may be S.O.L. so to speak. On the other hand if you have a .config for the Suse kernel I or someone else might be willing to compile the kernel version of your choice and tar it up for you. Kirk -- Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility e-mail: kirk at braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario phone: (519) 661-3061